Posts by Pete Zahut

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G.B of JW`s trusting in Jehovah ? or Trusting in Men When It Comes To A Crunch !

by smiddy3 in

jehovah`s witnesses have taken it upon themselves that they have been chosen by god to be his witnesses in what they believe to be the last days ,the time of the end spoken of by the prophets of old.. they are on record as stating in their publications that it is their calling and duty to preach this message of announcing jehovah`s kingdom loud and clear publicly and from house to house even when under ban.. which they have done on many occasions in the past putting their trust in jehovah .. taking to heart acts ch.5 : 17- 32 which states in a nutshell ," we must obey god as ruler rather than men " .

they are also on record that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil to mislead all mankind.. this includes all governments ,religious leaders ,economic, and social systems ,they have even stated that the united nations was a counterfeit kingdom in opposition to the kingdom of god for the benefit of mankind.. so what do we see today ?

true , we have a pandemic with this covid-19 virus that is wreaking havoc in the worlds health systems causing death to many people on a scale not seen since the spanish flu pandemic a century ago.. now i`m just speaking from a jehovah`s witness mindset here,to put there money where their mouth is.

Pete Zahut

The Bible account of the ten plague's it's says he protected his people from any harm even if it upset the authorities and people of that time so his name would be known and he was all powerful.And Moses and Aaron lead his people in obedience to God's direction.
So why not today?

JW's will tell you that this is because the Israelites were the chosen people God directly had dealings with and he directly brought the plagues upon Egypt as a punishment for not letting the Israelites go. They'll tell you that today's situation and others to come (wars, difficult weather patterns plagues etc) , are as a result of mans own actions such as greed, improper sanitation, overcrowding, polluting the earth, ruining the environment etc. They'll tell you that Jehovah knew that this would be the eventual outcome of mankind being led by Satan, JW's acknowledge that they too will be effected by these things and must do their part to protect themselves.

I understand that people on this forum have been adversely effected by the JW organization (I have too) but it seems like there are those who will fault them for EVERYTHING they do. If they don't meet together, they're accused of not trusting Jehovah....if they did meet together they'd be seen as delusional fools who are being irresponsible or only concerned about making sure they keep the donations coming in.

If the government tried to ban JW's outright, they'd surely resist (as they've done in other lands) . What's taking place today is not preventing them from worshiping. It's a temporary situation and they aren't being singled out.

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Latest Trick by You know Who!

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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this is getting thrown about a lot to me from various jdumbs.. .

also got the perfect answer as retort!

beat that you jdumb morons!.

Pete Zahut

It’s amazing how Jehovah is always in agreement with whatever the governing body decides. He even changes his mind at the same time as they do.

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The organization is missing out on a golden opportunity to reach people with the "good news"

by nowwhat? in

great question to ask your pimi's.

if we truly are in final minutes of the last days before the great tribulation.

with most everyone home, why is the org.

Pete Zahut

Further proof that the urgency of the message and the arrival of the new system being dependent upon it being spread throughout the earth, was never their real motive.

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G.B of JW`s trusting in Jehovah ? or Trusting in Men When It Comes To A Crunch !

by smiddy3 in

jehovah`s witnesses have taken it upon themselves that they have been chosen by god to be his witnesses in what they believe to be the last days ,the time of the end spoken of by the prophets of old.. they are on record as stating in their publications that it is their calling and duty to preach this message of announcing jehovah`s kingdom loud and clear publicly and from house to house even when under ban.. which they have done on many occasions in the past putting their trust in jehovah .. taking to heart acts ch.5 : 17- 32 which states in a nutshell ," we must obey god as ruler rather than men " .

they are also on record that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil to mislead all mankind.. this includes all governments ,religious leaders ,economic, and social systems ,they have even stated that the united nations was a counterfeit kingdom in opposition to the kingdom of god for the benefit of mankind.. so what do we see today ?

true , we have a pandemic with this covid-19 virus that is wreaking havoc in the worlds health systems causing death to many people on a scale not seen since the spanish flu pandemic a century ago.. now i`m just speaking from a jehovah`s witness mindset here,to put there money where their mouth is.

Pete Zahut

If the government tried to ban them outright, they’d resist but this is a matter of health and safety much like not attending meeting if a snow storm or hurricane were on the way.

They are doing phone calls and letter writing and virtual meetings instead.

If they went ahead with their meetings and preaching as usual despite the pandemic, we’d be criticizing them for being irresponsible. Sometimes it seems they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

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Brothers, please give blood!

by lastmanstanding in

we are all very much aware of watchtology’s duplicity of teaching, the blood doctrine being the most predominant piece of hypocritical bullshight in human history.

but perhaps now we shall see their hypocrisy in a whole new light.. the red cross is putting out the call.. patients.

plasma donations from recovered covid-19 patients.

Pete Zahut

Can Jehovah’s Witnesses receive components of blood? We all know the BS answer that the governing boobs dreamed up. Sure they can!

I wonder if they could partake of the wine at the memorial if the wine was broken into fractions.

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Differences between UK and US Corona Virus TV Updates

by ThomasCovenant in

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i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.

generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.

certainly no political point scoring.

Pete Zahut

I agree. It seems to me that here in the U.S., rather than being interested in what progress is being made, reporters are more interested in finding someone to blame and point a finger at and in badgering the President or others into saying something that they can sensationalize.

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STIR CRAZY please help me covid-19 with religious family

by Wagurl in

hi need some help with the teachings regarding the 4type horsemen and the virus.

i'm 17 going to be 18 in six months.

i am a running start student and trying to find the best way to move out after i graduate next year to continue.

Pete Zahut

It's very hard to know where you stand when you've grown up as a JW because on one hand you can see the holes in their beliefs and on the other, there's a nagging "what if they're right" feeling in the pit of your stomach whenever something noteworthy (negative) is going on in the world.

There are two things coming into play here "Confirmation Bias" and "Frequency Illusion/Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon" :

Confirmation bias:The tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of ones existing beliefs/theories. (beliefs you learned from JW's)

Example: In 1957 when the first satellite was launched into space, JW's said it confirmed the Bible's end time prediction that there'd be fearful signs from the heavens in the last days. Every year before and since then, there have been world events that could be interpreted as the end and every JW has shaken in his/her boots when they've occurred.

Frequency Illusion/Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon: A cognitive bias which describes our tendency to see new information, names, ideas or patterns 'everywhere' after they're brought to our attention.

Rather than seeing earthquakes, hurricanes, diseases, food shortages as isolated incidents, for the past 100+ years, JW's have been on the lookout for signs and have shoehorned every unfavorable global occurrence into being signs of the time of the end. They even view normalcy or favorable occurrences (peace and security) as a sign of the end. If mankind accomplishes something good, they say it's because Satan is trying to mislead them into thinking they don't need God.

My advice:

Do your best to abide by the rules of the house and be as pleasant as possible. Your family undoubtedly loves you and has your best interest at heart.

Say one more prayer and tell God that you are willing to do whatever it is he wants you to do but ask him to make it clear to you that he exists and what it is he want from you. Then leave it in his hands.

Go about your life being the most decent upright noblest, healthiest and prettiest person you can be. Don't make the mistake of thinking that if you're not a JW, that the rules no longer apply and you now have license to be immoral, dishonest and do as you please. Take care of your health, improve yourself, learn new things, do good for others, be honest and do the right thing no matter what. Stay fresh and young for as long as you can. Your life doesn't have to become a train wreck if you choose not to be a JW and it doesn't have to be miserable if you stay. Many JW's find a way to make things work for them. It's only a religion and you can choose how seriously you take it.

There is no emergency here. Take a wait and see attitude. If there is a God and he does in fact have good things in store for mankind, there's no reason an honest upright and decent person like the one you're striving to be, shouldn't be a part of it too. Just don't let this situation make you sneaky and dishonest or bitter. You'll end up not liking yourself and your opinion of you is the most important opinion of all.

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Need help - How do you determine whether to show a JW the truth or not?

by AlainAlam in

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how do you determine whether to show a jw the truth or not?.

now some of you still believe in the bible.

to you the answer would be obvious - we preach to anyone as much as possible.

Pete Zahut

On some level, people want to be lied to...they want to hear what they want to hear and they are quite prepared to punish anyone who (for whatever reason) bursts their happy little bubble.

So....

If someone asks you directly for your advice or input...give it but give it sparingly. Answer only the questions they ask you and nothing more.

If your motive is to prove a point, vindicate yourself personally or to get retribution for the wrongs you suffered....keep your mouth shut. A mind changed by force is a mind unchanged.

If someone is in imminent danger....say something otherwise, it's not your job to save or enlighten the world. That's an old JW notion.

When the student is ready....the teacher will come.

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My Girlfriend’s Beautiful Scottish Terrier Died Yesterday 😥

by minimus in

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mia was almost 8 and she was the sweetest dog who was my girlfriend’s constant companion.

she had a wonderful disposition and was just a source of joy to everyone who would meet her.. she was brought to the vet on thursday and seemed to have digestive issues.

the vet gave her medicine and said it would make her sleepy.

Pete Zahut

Yes...loosing our furry tail waggin' friends is definitely rough. It's enough to make you swear off having another pet. Time will be a friend to you in all of this however. Hang in there for now.

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Unbelievable!

by The Fall Guy in

you gotta listen to the first 60 seconds of the special talk drivel.. you'll immediately see why i've put this under jokes & humour.

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https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodspecialtalk2020/pub-sp-tk20r_1_video.

Pete Zahut

I couldn't stand the affected look of deep concern on his face and the condescending tone of his voice for more than 30 seconds. Even in that short length of time it was glaringly obvious that everything he was saying about non JW leaders could have easily been applied to JW leaders.